Need some help, switching from OS Classic ...

[maurice]

Am I in the right forum? My problem is about Stuffit Expander 10 being unable to open some sharewares

Examples:
iClip.dmg.part,
keyboardmaestro-203.dmg.part,
Sputnik.dmg.part,
Yasu_TE.dmg

Other compressed files are unstuffed normally.

Comments would be much appreciated

[grotsasha]

Mmm... I don't know if you're in the right forum, but we're friendly enough to help... :)

Well it seems to me that your problem doesn't have something to do with Stuffit.You don't need Stuffit to open .dmg files, you should be able to open them just with a double click

It seems strange to me that your shareware files have two extensions, i.e. "dmg" and "part". I should assume, that you have some download manager that appends a second extension for the time it downloads a file. So there are two possibilities why you can't open your file: it's just because it was not downloaded entirely, or because your download manager didn't remove this "part" extension at the end and OS X gets confused. Well, try to remove "part" from the end and see if it opens.

Do you have Path Finder by the way? (It will answer the question if you're in the right forum :) )

[neilio]

.dmgpart files are disk image files that have been split apart into multiple files. You need to have all of the "segments" of the file with the original file (which ends with .dmg, not with .dmgpart) in order to successfully mount the image.

Neil

[maurice]

Thank you both for your fast replies.

Each of the problem sharewares downloaded in 2 files. One ending with .dmg, but empty, and the second ending with .dmg.part, that contained data.
I tried to erase the .dmg empty file, and erase the ".part" portion of the second file, but when I double clicked on it it only offered to open the file as text, and then said there was not enough memory (I have I Gb...)
As for Yasu_TE.dmg, it had no .part suffix but when I tried to open it an alert said "No mountable file system"

Here are URLs from where I downloaded sharewares:
keyboard maestro: http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/11870
iClip 3.7: http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/11870
sputnick: http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/21558

I don't have Pathfinder, Grotsasha, because I was warned that it is incompatible with Tiger
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[grotsasha]

Ok, so you're not in the right forum :)

But it's not a problem, I have moved this thread to the Anything Goes on our forum, because it's not related with Path Finder (if not others will think that that's a conflict between Path Finder and Stuffit). So please post your reply there.

Well how did you download that? And as Neil have said you should assemble these two parts together.

[maurice]

How did I download those Version Tracker sharewares? I just clicked on "download now" !

Neil says to assemble the 2 parts together. But how do I do that?

• What is the PRACTICAL difference between a folder and a disk image?

• If I may ask one more question (since anything goes...) How can I quickly convert a whole batch of photos from TIFF to jpeg, or compress a batch of jpeg a little further?

Thank you for your help.

[grotsasha]

What is your browser? Safari or other? Do you have a download manager (for example Speed Download, iGetter or something similar)?

For the photos I don't know how to do that, but someone here knows it better than me. (Well I know, that one can make it on the command line with imagemagick for example, but I don't think that can help you).

How long do you have your Mac (just curious)?

[BrentN]

Neil says to assemble the 2 parts together. But how do I do that?

• What is the PRACTICAL difference between a folder and a disk image?

• If I may ask one more question (since anything goes...) How can I quickly convert a whole batch of photos from TIFF to jpeg, or compress a batch of jpeg a little further?

Thank you for your help.

Re: dmgparts - If all the parts are uncorrupted and sitting the same place, simply double click on the first one (the one without a sequence number). An example of this, for dmgparts of the Apple dev tools, can be found here: http://forums.macosxhints.com/archive/index.php/t-20132.html

You don't need Stuffit Expander to mount dmg files or dmgparts

Re: folder v. disk image - A disk image is a file that can be mounted as a separate file system. This means you only have to deal with one file (or sequence of files) rather than the 1000s that could be held in a folder. Most people do not segment their dmgs - the only conceivable reason to do so is for size issues.

This leads me to believe that the files you downloaded were corrupted somehow. Try downloading them from MacUpdate <http://www.macupdate.com>. When I downloaded Keyboard Maestro from their to check it, it downloaded as a single dmg. (Also - I used to use Keyboard Maestro, and have switched to Butler. Other people also enjoy Quicksilver. Both of these programs have a lot more functionality than Keyboard Maestro, and both are freeware/donationware.

In re: converting TIFFs to JPEGs - make a droplet in Photoshop.

Hope this helps.

[neilio]

It's also possible that the download wasn't completed or was somehow interrupted and the dmgpart was an incomplete file. As others have already pointed out, you don't need Stuffit to mount disk image files (dmg files) so the assumption is there's something wrong with either the files themselves, or the download.

[maurice]

Grotsasha,
Thanks for passing on my queries to BrentN.
I don't have a download manager (what are they for?)
I am using Firefox since I started with the Mac mini and Tiger,one month ago.
You said: "that one can make it on the command line with imagemagick" Can you please explain? (what is the command line?)
That's not a real photo of you, is it?

BrentN.
You are probably right about those files being corrupted. A small shareware does not warrant segmenting. I will try to get Butler on MacUpdate. Thanks for the tip.
Regarding the batch conversion of TIFFs to JPEGs, (ahem) could you kindly tell me how to make a droplet in Photoshop?
Finally, I would love to find a shareware as handy as AutoTextTyper. It doesn't work with OSX. I could assign a shortcut key for each of the most usual infos I have to supply often (e-mail address, password, letter endings, and also the current short date)
Another utility I miss with OSX is ICeTEe which let me launch a URL by command-clicking on its name in any text or list. Any OSX equivalent?

[grotsasha]

Aha, now I see. You're switching from Windows. Congratulations,a fine choice!

Well, that's normal you'll have a switch period, that will be maybe a bit confusing... :? And it's perfectly understandable you want to make it as quickly as possible. You'll need some time though to get used to some OS X features, and to find apropriate software that suits your needs. You'll probably will not be able to have an exact clone of Windows (it's not for that you've switched to Mac, isn't it?), but you'll find a nice configuration that will be fine for you in some time. So I advice you to investigate all built-in capabilities of the Mac (which are far more powerful out of the box, than in Windows), before you jump on all available shareware.
To help you a bit to spot the most used software, that you might like to try, here is the list that I have installed on my computer as well as some popular shareware that is much in use in Mac community:

Path Finder 4 (file manager)
Audio tools: Audio Hijack Pro, Audio Recorder
Firefox (internet browser)
Adium and Mercury Messenger (for chat)
Video tools: ffmpegX, DivX 6, MPEG Streamclip
Multimedia Players: MPlayer X, Real Player, VLC(highly recommended), Windows Media Player (or Flip4Mac plugin)
Text Editors: I have at least 10 of them for different purposes, built-in TextEdit is enough powerful and universal, but you can have Microsoft Office if you like
Adobe Creative Suite
Toast Titanium 7 (like Nero, but much, much better)
QuickSilver or LaunchBar (optional)

It is a small list, of course there are more than that, but even this is optional, because of the wonderful suite of apps that are built-in OS X (I assume you have iLife, if you've got a new computer)

You're maybe surprised, I didn't answer your direct questions... Well, it's because I see that there are really much things to explain, just because you haven't had enough time yet... Maybe you should buy yourself an OS X book and start your investigation "from zero", not thinking too much of cloning Windows...

I wish you much fun and joy in your way to the wonderful system that is OS X. :)


P.S.: command line is what you see if you open the Terminal programm (in your Utilities folder). It is a bit like in DOS, but 20 times as powerful. If you've ever heard the word UNIX, then well, at the command line you have the power of UNIX at your fingertips (if you know how to do it). But that's a VERY large topic, that you can investigate only if you read a couple of books on UNIX.

P.P.S.: That's really me on the picture. (I can't understand why people can't believe it really )

P.P.P.S: QuickSilver and TypeIt4Me should be equivalent to AutoTextTyper

[BrentN]

BrentN.
You are probably right about those files being corrupted. A small shareware does not warrant segmenting. I will try to get Butler on MacUpdate. Thanks for the tip.
Regarding the batch conversion of TIFFs to JPEGs, (ahem) could you kindly tell me how to make a droplet in Photoshop?
Finally, I would love to find a shareware as handy as AutoTextTyper. It doesn't work with OSX. I could assign a shortcut key for each of the most usual infos I have to supply often (e-mail address, password, letter endings, and also the current short date)
Another utility I miss with OSX is ICeTEe which let me launch a URL by command-clicking on its name in any text or list. Any OSX equivalent?

Maurice - glad I could help. In re: Butler - one thing to get used to on the Mac is that there are a lot of programs that are similar, but not quite the same, and it really does behoove you to try them out and find the one that works best for -you-. Grab Quicksilver, Butler, and Keyboard Maestro and try them all out to see what you like.

In re: AutoTextTyper - you may want to check out Textpander (http://www.petermaurer.de/nasi.php?section=textpander&layout=default)


In re: ICeTEe - there is, of course, ICeCoffEE (http://macupdate.com/info.php/id/8852). A caveat - the mechanism by which this functionality is provided is the subject of no small controversy. I would think carefully before installing it.

To make a droplet, make an action that does what you want, then choose File > Automate > Create Droplet in Photoshop.

[maurice]

Grotsasha,
Actually, before the Mac mini I was using a G3 and before that, a Mac LC when they first came out (first colour Mac). However I am new to OSX (which feels a bit like a PC disguised as a Mac).
If you thought that I was a convert from Wintel it's probably because I seem denser than most, but really I understand quickly after someone patiently explains at length. I must say that, in spite of its reputation for conviviality and transparence, Apple can be quite obscure sometimes. I live in a small pacific island and being able to ask questions to a forum likyours is invaluable to me.


BrentN,
Textpander: I am glad you mentioned this. It may be just what I need. However I will still investigare TypeIt4Me and Typinator.
ICeCoffEE: Without taking too much of your time, could you enlarge a little on the caveat?
Can this utility create problems?

Quickly converting a batch of photos from TIFF to JPEG or further compressing a batch of JPEG: You advised to make a droplet in Photoshop, but how this is done is not clear: (You said "make an action that does what you want, then choose File > Automate > Create Droplet in Photoshop"). I can open a .TIFF in Photoshop and Save As... JPEG, then adjust the quality, but I have Photoshop 5.0 LE and it does not have Automate in the File menu.
Preview can compress one pic at a time but I don't think it can do batches .
While speaking of Photoshop 5.0 LE, I must say that I have copied it from my old G3 and it is now opening in Classic. I t works as usual but since working with the Mac mini, I noticed the disappearance of the horizontal cursor which used to be under the brush palette. Do you know how I can get it back? (it is not mentioned in the Window menu either)

[grotsasha]

Well, I'm a bit ashamed of my tirade now :oops: :oops:

But I was willing to help... Sorry. I'm just a bit overworked at the moment, because I've never been a moderator and it's my first week. And I broke one of the rules I was willing to obey: Be humble. A "Know-It-All" is born every second.. Be willing to learn and listen.

As for conviviality of Apple, you're absolutely right. It begins with a lack of a comprehensive manual with the machines and/or system.

[maurice]

BrentN,

My last post has remained unanswered. I hope you are allright. If you can find the time I would be very interested to know your views on the topics I raised.

Grotsasha,
Please don't apologise! You were very kind and I appreciated your intentions. Anyway I keep being a beginner...

[grotsasha]

I just wanted to suggest that you update your Photoshop to the OS X version, if it is possible for you. It is possible that the Droplet function is available only in the OS X version. It will also run better and faster in "native" mode as in Classic mode.
By the way, did you solve the .dmgpart problem?

[maurice]

I copied back Photoshop LE from my backup onto Tiger. It works but the sliding pointer under the brushes palette has simply disappeared. It is not listed in the Window menu either!

Any idea as to how I can get this (indispensable) slider back?

I finally solved the .dmg problem by reformatting the problem partition. That made it visible - and usable - again.

[grotsasha]

Glad, you solved the .dmgpart problem.

Any idea as to how I can get this (indispensable) slider back?

Try maybe recopying your Photoshop again from the backup. It is possible that when you saved it (or during the copy) it didn't preserve some of the elements (not your fault ,it is a complex topic on resource forks handling, which is different in Classic) If it doesn't help, well, I really suggest you to get a copy of Photoshop for OS X.