Volume Display Quirk

[Anonymous]

Eval'ing PathFinder on a freshly-installed HDD. PB 17", Panther upgraded with latest downloads.

- New Fujitsu 80GB has 6 partitions, all formatted *BSD UFS, all successfully mounted. OS X is happy with this, 'Finder' is happy with this.

Quirk: (dare I say 'bug'?)

- PathFinder displays icons for six partitions, *BUT*

- All six are images of the boot volume, and show the same name and same contents when opened. The other five are 'not really there', though their *count* indicates PF has picked up a clue from somewhere.

- Expecting a similar problem when I re-attach the USB (HFS+, one partition), FW1 (UFS, 2 partitions) and FW2 (UFS, 2 partitions) external drives.

- Where might be a setting (patch?) to get the other mounts to display?

Regards,

Bill Hacker

wbh@conducive.org

[neilio]

Hi, Bill -

That definitely is not correct behaviour! Is this consistently reproducible, or does it go away after restarting PF or the computer?

It is possible that there is a bug with UFS-formatted partitions, as I don't know anyone in the beta group who has their drives formatted this way. Is there a reason why you've gone with UFS? It doesn't support Mac OS X metadata and is highly recommended by Apple as not being used for production machines.

At any rate, I'll have to pull a test machine and do some testing to see if I can reproduce this.

Neil

[Anonymous]

Neal Said:

>> ..Is this consistently reproducible,

Absolutely. Consistently so, and persistent thru shut-down / reboot as well as restart.

Also moved (as root) the *.app into /System/Library/CoreServices from /Applications, just in case it needed to be invoked from a different place in the 'tree'.

>>It is possible that there is a bug with UFS-formatted partitions,

Almost certainly.

>>Is there a reason why you've gone with UFS?

Several. Neither hpfs-386 nor XFS were available, it lets my 'production' machines (FreeBSD) read the media for maintenance, and I am no longer concerned with the Hierarchical File System's strong points - fast data retrieval from 5 1/4" floppy disk under the 'Woz machine' kludge.

>> It doesn't support Mac OS X metadata

Thankfully! System runs much faster w/o core-hog 'Finder' and its beloved _data.fs garbage. Anything so sloppy that I need Dublin Core for sits in a Zope/Plone instance on a FreeBSd server.

Been using a bash shell renamed 'Finder' as the substitute until starting to trial Path Finder & Butler. Butler is more familiar after 16+ years on OS/2 Warp, but Pathfinder seems a more natural 'Finder' replacement (though either one actually take more memory than Finder does.)

I generally know quite well where the files are. I put them there <g>

When not, the 'whereis' and 'locate' databases are far more efficient, if less convenient. Worst case a 'find' or even 'grep'.

>>and is highly recommended by Apple as not being used for production machines.

'Production'?. As in - lemme check - 'up 331 days, 17:58' (my mail server). Given the record of the OS X servers relative to Grand-Dad FreeBSD, I ain't touchin' THAT one <g>.

I can only wish they had hired Marshall McKusick as well as Jordan Hubbard. And listened better to both!

>>At any rate, I'll have to pull a test machine and do some testing to see if I can reproduce this.

No need to reformat a working system. It *should* show up if you simply attach a UFS-formatted device via the USB or Firewire ports (and re-boot or 'mount ... <whatever> from the CLI'. That could be a USB stick or CF. I keep a 'maintenance' FreeBSD install on a 256MB CF with IDE adapter.

It 'sees' my former Powerbook 60 GB HDD (HFS+ Journaled), now installed in a USB2/FW1 'Targa' case, but not the backup drives (200GB WDC on FW2/USB2 and 20 GB IBM on FW1/USB1). All it does is add them as more appearances of the boot drive.

*Possibility* ???

My boot drive is not labelled or meta-tagged as 'Computer' or 'Macintosh HD'. Finder lists is as 'WBH-PB' and folder-panel/desktop icon is titled 'MacBoot'. The other partitions are usr, var, tmp, home, data, but (for another day or so) they are still mounted under the /Volumes artifact.

TIA,

Bill Hacker

AN/FSQ-7. AN/GSA-51. And a few older ones..... (analog, though..)

[Anonymous]

Update:

- Set to 'open a new browser on startup', I end up with TWO.

- One shows seven copies of 'MacBoot', as previously reported. in both the main an left-slide panes.

- The OTHER shows the same in the left-slide pane, but all the "proper" volume mounts in the main panel.

What has changed:

1) The old HFS+ formatted 'Macintosh HD' is attached via USB adapter.

2) The window which is wrong *was* set to start at 'Computer'. It will display, but not accept, the assigned name 'WBH-PB'. Likewise the same error if set to start at "/".

3) The window which is correct is starting at 'Volumes'. ("/Volumes").
- BUT - I can find no 'GUI' way to replicate that setting manually.
(it should not be needed if one starts at the root of the filesystem "/")

- Worse. Due to Apple's *insane* corruption of UNIX file structure, if one opens the boot volume, then opens 'Volumes', then opens the boot volume, then opens 'Volumes' then opens the boot volume, then opens 'Volumes'..... etc ad nauseum......

Dunno if it is within the realm of 'the possible' to fix this......

Regards,

Bill Hacker

wbh@conducive.org